who is inget in don taylor, michigan. , gretchen.nk you to an extent, being spied on ourselves -- that is what our constitution is about. if we had nothing to hide -- that is ridiculous. what about our senators and congressmen who are being listened to? that can mess with our campaign. it's way overboard. our founding fathers were totally against it. callers havef the merits to what they're saying. ian is right that some of this has to go on, and will continue to go on. it's a sad fact of life, as the previous caller was saying it. sometimes you walk down the street in washington or new york and you bump into a security officer who is wearing a black jacket and carrying a machine gun. we wish that were not the case, but after 9/11, those sorts of things are more normal than they used to be. maybe we will get to a world where we don't have to have that kind of domestic security, or we don't need to occasionally tap into the phones of americans and foreigners. unfortunately, that's where we are right now. the key is, as we have been trying to discuss this morning, where do we find that r